Malaysian Corporal Punishment - Caning
This is pretty harsh, it shows you that caning is actually really bad.
Especially 20 lashes.
He tries to a tough buy, but starts wailing after 3-4 strikes, especially when they start landing on top of each other.
Looks seriously painful.
There's an interesting article on Wiki about Caning in Singapore, nothing similar for Malaysia though.
You better make sure you rob people before 7pm aye..
Robbery: At least six strokes. If committed after 7 p.m. and before 7 a.m: At least twelve strokes
What do you think of corporal punishment, is it a really effective deterrent?
It certainly sounds painful as described by New Zealander Aaron Cohen's, he got six strokes in 1982 for drug-trafficking.
It's just incredible pain. More like a burning - like someone sticking an iron on your bum. That's the sort of feeling. Pain - just ultimate pain,'' he said. ‘‘The strokes come at a rate of one a minute - but it seemed like a lifetime to me. I waited and waited for the first one and as soon as I let my breath out - ‘baam'. Afterwards my bum looked like a side of beef.
Source: MALAYSIA: Illegal Migrant Workers May Escape the Cane
Amnesty thinks it should be banned - Malaysia: Caning should be abolished
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this is a good video to show how severe the punishment is. it ought to be shown on public television everyday.
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Someone once said this is nothing but glorified torture. I agree and i consider this no different to the Abu Ghraib Prison scandal.
When I watched it, I find no sense of justice, just pure disgust at the absence of humanity. To call this justice is an insult as we have degraded worse than many of the worst criminals. Why? Look at the reasons you could be caned? Illegal immigrants? Drug use? Give me a fucking break.
Using
great video. i'm all for corporal punishment. for rapists, child molesters and murderers, they should be given 50 strokes of rotan.
after that they should be castrated.
preferably without anesthesia.
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beware! The wrath of the cane!
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This is a really good deterrent.
Definitely should be shown to the public more often. I am not too sure about the caning procedures but last i heard, if a guy gets 20 strokes, they divide it to 2 sessions? I am surprised he could still work properly though.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
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They should show this in national tv then again too bad we have censorship
Using
Saw this video footage shown during some sort of PDRM exhibition in Sabah when I was serving NS there.... painful!!
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I did write a long ass comment about this ... but darn it, apparently I couldn't add.
Short version of same comment:
* Corporal and Capital punishment doesn't work as Criminals don't think they'll get caught.
* Violence breads more violence [and kids exposed to violence have a higher chance of becoming criminals]
* Most nations with Corporal and Capital punishment have higher crime rates than those which don't.
* High police presence in areas is actually the BEST deterant to crime.
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I agree with dabido. If corporal punishment works then there is quite a substantial amount of justification onto it on a logical sense. However, Malaysia's crime is spiraling out of control and I dont think caning is on their mind when they are committing the crime.
However, SG has corporal punishment even for vandalism and the crime rate is quite low. What do we say to that? Likewise, there are also both countries with and without corporal punishment that has both a high and low number of crime.
Using
You play, you pay. No culprit should get away.
Actually at this stage it mostly too late to redeem anyone. That's because they spared the rod, they spoiled the child. Now the kid's grown.
Using
Jesus Christ that is gruesome.
Using
If one were to listen to everything Amnesty has to say, one would be led to believe that prisons should be set up and run like 3-star hotels. And that even the most hardcore crim deserves counselling more than an old-fashioned medieval "lesson".
I say whack 'em hard, whack 'em good.
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I watched until the fourth stroke and skipped to the end. It is hell for the receiver but I really wonder what goes through the mind of the persons carrying out the caning. Imagine caning dozens of buttocks until they bleed (in some cases). Does that harm a person's mind?
Using
Just goes to show that the colonial hangover is still very active in our asian mind-sets. What had been instituted as a "deterrence" to keep the "blackies" in check is still allowed to flourish!!
Even in India, sure there is nothing like this legally allowed, but i'm pretty certain it takes place behind closed doors.
Our police forces (in almost all "former colonies") still behave like the they are the paid hatchet men hired keep the local "natives" in check. They still behave in some ways as an occupying force!!
Oh when will we ever grow up!
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blaaa. wrote a long comment but the adding mechanism seems to have bugs.
anyway, was saying corporal punishment has its place, but perhaps we do need to look at what type of crimes deserve such penalty
Using
Are they using a whip? I once watched another video during my visit to the Pudu Prison during my primary school days. They were 2 types of canes, a smaller one for juveniles and another bigger one for adults. To add to the grimness of the video, it was shown near the whipping site. The inmates buttocks ended looking like what you call 'hoi far' or budding flowers in cantonese. Ouch.
I think caning should be abolished though.
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Watching the video itself is such a torture.....
Maybe you guys think it's right to cane those rapists, murderers and they deserved it...but what if a person is wrongly accused to be rapist and sentenced to prison and caning? The judicial system is not perfect...
And I do agree prevention is better than punishment...we need more police on the street!
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Anyone know what his crime was?
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10 years of imprisonment and 20 strokes, he must have done something really bad.
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Does anyone know if RICH people get caned too?
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if a guy has used his butt in the commission of a crime,such as hiding drugs inside of it,or it's muscles in raping a child or woman lets say,then it seems it should be whipped severely!
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Although I think this is excessive, I think there's definitely a place for a limited amount of caning here in the UK as we have got a situation where some youths see their convictions as a badge of honour. I wonder if they'd be so quick to boast about having their ass caned in this way? I think not.
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I'm Dutch and in my country criminals are in a hotel-like jail. We pay taxes for that treatment. Corporal punishment seems a better solution to me. Stop pampering criminals!
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Judicial caning seems to be exquisitely painful, yet, Singapore carries out canings in a "mass production" fashion, long lines of detainees squat in a corridor awaiting their turn to be severely caned.
So I doubt it is an efficient deterrent, it doesn't seem like the number of canings will dwindle anytime soon, the opposite being more likely though.
But it is undeniable that the proceedings are quite interesting in some sort of way, I guess watching rapists and molesters get their just deserts is somewhat rewarding.
I wish my country (MĂ©xico) would adopt this punishment method on rapists, molesters, drug dealers and those morons painting grafitti on private property.
It wouldn't be a deterrent but at least they would get their butts marked for life, the f***ng bastards
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I'm for it! Bring back Caning! What ever happened to the kid who sprayed graffiti in Singapore and received caning for punishment?
Quit pampering these undisciplined, irresponsible, smart-ass punks. Mom & dad pampered 'em and now they're paying the price.
I don't mean to sound uncaring. You love your children and let them know it. But you also discipline them or they grow up undisciplined. You teach them responsibility or they grow up irresponsible.
Common sense ain't!