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	<title>Comments on: Valerie Ebal &#8211; Urban Decay &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: baza</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2008/07/30/valerie-ebal-urban-decay-part-1/#comment-128231</link>
		<dc:creator>baza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good pictures... the model has a good body but not a particularly fascinating face, expressionwise or featurewise. pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good pictures&#8230; the model has a good body but not a particularly fascinating face, expressionwise or featurewise. pity.</p>
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		<title>By: ShaolinTiger</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2008/07/30/valerie-ebal-urban-decay-part-1/#comment-122744</link>
		<dc:creator>ShaolinTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;tk:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks, you&#039;re kind :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>tk:</strong> Thanks, you&#8217;re kind <img src='http://www.shaolintiger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tk</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2008/07/30/valerie-ebal-urban-decay-part-1/#comment-122723</link>
		<dc:creator>tk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love the close up pics!! xpressions were way better than other shots... others&#039; xpressions were pretty much the same.. but, wth... we LOVE her anyway!!

wink!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love the close up pics!! xpressions were way better than other shots&#8230; others&#8217; xpressions were pretty much the same.. but, wth&#8230; we LOVE her anyway!!</p>
<p>wink!</p>
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		<title>By: ShaolinTiger</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2008/07/30/valerie-ebal-urban-decay-part-1/#comment-122644</link>
		<dc:creator>ShaolinTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;steph:&lt;/strong&gt; FHM? Nah where did you get this idea? These are more towards high fashion. There&#039;s some in the second set that are a bit FHM-ish. I&#039;ll post the ones for FHM soon, I&#039;ve got the go-ahead.

&lt;strong&gt;moons:&lt;/strong&gt; Yah, I suggest most models to go for acting and theater classes, it helps a lot. Kim Ong had very good expressions, very versatile - she was good to work with.

&lt;strong&gt;sharon:&lt;/strong&gt; Agree and agree.

&lt;strong&gt;Irene:&lt;/strong&gt; HAHAHAHA - bitch!

&lt;strong&gt;Az:&lt;/strong&gt; No, do you want to volunteer?

&lt;strong&gt;karen:&lt;/strong&gt; Yah I agree, Valerie needs more training and practise. I thought she was ahead of where she is, this is a very strong location and needs a powerful emotive expression from the model. Don&#039;t fixate on the names, they don&#039;t mean anything - they are just a way to reference the pictures. From now on I&#039;ll number them.

&lt;strong&gt;potatoe:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks boss, you da man. Agree with you on that, still trying to get the finer points down but so far I found it depends a lot on what the model can do (for me) I haven&#039;t got the point where I can work around that very well if they don&#039;t have much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>steph:</strong> FHM? Nah where did you get this idea? These are more towards high fashion. There&#8217;s some in the second set that are a bit FHM-ish. I&#8217;ll post the ones for FHM soon, I&#8217;ve got the go-ahead.</p>
<p><strong>moons:</strong> Yah, I suggest most models to go for acting and theater classes, it helps a lot. Kim Ong had very good expressions, very versatile &#8211; she was good to work with.</p>
<p><strong>sharon:</strong> Agree and agree.</p>
<p><strong>Irene:</strong> HAHAHAHA &#8211; bitch!</p>
<p><strong>Az:</strong> No, do you want to volunteer?</p>
<p><strong>karen:</strong> Yah I agree, Valerie needs more training and practise. I thought she was ahead of where she is, this is a very strong location and needs a powerful emotive expression from the model. Don&#8217;t fixate on the names, they don&#8217;t mean anything &#8211; they are just a way to reference the pictures. From now on I&#8217;ll number them.</p>
<p><strong>potatoe:</strong> Thanks boss, you da man. Agree with you on that, still trying to get the finer points down but so far I found it depends a lot on what the model can do (for me) I haven&#8217;t got the point where I can work around that very well if they don&#8217;t have much.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie Ebal - Beauty, Classic &#38; Fear - Part 2 &#124; .: ShaolinTiger - Kung-Fu Geekery :.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie Ebal - Beauty, Classic &#38; Fear - Part 2 &#124; .: ShaolinTiger - Kung-Fu Geekery :.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sorry, more of the same facial expressions - but I gotta finish up after Part 1! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sorry, more of the same facial expressions &#8211; but I gotta finish up after Part 1! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: potatoe</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2008/07/30/valerie-ebal-urban-decay-part-1/#comment-122640</link>
		<dc:creator>potatoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad boy : captivating, imoho, is your money shot.

you squeeze &quot;expression&quot; when its required pending, on what you have in mind - else you will experience some serious &quot;over-emo&quot; overdose, which is from set to set - boring.

no one actually bothered to ask what you have in mind before commenting on the expression part - so, its fair play.

karen - here is a &quot;take away&quot; thought from the stuffs you &quot;don&#039;t get it&quot; - an apple do not have to be red to be an apple. why limit your imagination? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad boy : captivating, imoho, is your money shot.</p>
<p>you squeeze &#8220;expression&#8221; when its required pending, on what you have in mind &#8211; else you will experience some serious &#8220;over-emo&#8221; overdose, which is from set to set &#8211; boring.</p>
<p>no one actually bothered to ask what you have in mind before commenting on the expression part &#8211; so, its fair play.</p>
<p>karen &#8211; here is a &#8220;take away&#8221; thought from the stuffs you &#8220;don&#8217;t get it&#8221; &#8211; an apple do not have to be red to be an apple. why limit your imagination? <img src='http://www.shaolintiger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had a great urban decay set but it is lacking the emotional appeal that holds the model and the set together.

The lack of emotional appeal I would say is to do with the model not being able to express herself. She did the same facial expression throughout. On the composition techniques. In certain shots, it&#039;s worth trying focusing a certain decaying area instead of trying to cramp too much into the picture. 

Not all models are born pose. And many times, a photographer needs to bring out the best in their subject to achieve that strong emotonal connection in the picture. 

In the 1st picture, entitled &#039;Twisted&#039;. The only thing I can relate to &#039;twisted&#039; is her &#039;twisted&#039; leg. I don&#039;t get it. 

2nd picture, entitled &#039;Dreams&#039;. I don&#039;t see anything dreamy about this picture. The expression and body language does not convey anything dreamy.

3rd picture, entitled &#039;Smashed&#039;, pretty much the same thing as pic 1. Don&#039;t get it. 

4th picture, entitled &#039;Lost&#039;. Can&#039;t see her facial expression, her body language reads &#039;Im HOT and sexy&#039;.

5th picture, entitled &#039;Alone&#039;. I like the door at the background but it would be better if you can find her some decayed furniture or something instead of leaning on a piece of &#039;something&#039; that I can&#039;t make out what it is. 

6th picture, entitled &#039;Beauty&#039;. No comment

7th picture, entitled &#039;Captivating&#039;. Like the expression of her eyes. 

8th picture, entitled &#039;Dance&#039;. Like this angle and her pose. 

9th picture, entitled &#039;Cold&#039;. I don&#039;t feel the chill looking at this picture.

The rest of the picture... don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had a great urban decay set but it is lacking the emotional appeal that holds the model and the set together.</p>
<p>The lack of emotional appeal I would say is to do with the model not being able to express herself. She did the same facial expression throughout. On the composition techniques. In certain shots, it&#8217;s worth trying focusing a certain decaying area instead of trying to cramp too much into the picture. </p>
<p>Not all models are born pose. And many times, a photographer needs to bring out the best in their subject to achieve that strong emotonal connection in the picture. </p>
<p>In the 1st picture, entitled &#8216;Twisted&#8217;. The only thing I can relate to &#8216;twisted&#8217; is her &#8216;twisted&#8217; leg. I don&#8217;t get it. </p>
<p>2nd picture, entitled &#8216;Dreams&#8217;. I don&#8217;t see anything dreamy about this picture. The expression and body language does not convey anything dreamy.</p>
<p>3rd picture, entitled &#8216;Smashed&#8217;, pretty much the same thing as pic 1. Don&#8217;t get it. </p>
<p>4th picture, entitled &#8216;Lost&#8217;. Can&#8217;t see her facial expression, her body language reads &#8216;Im HOT and sexy&#8217;.</p>
<p>5th picture, entitled &#8216;Alone&#8217;. I like the door at the background but it would be better if you can find her some decayed furniture or something instead of leaning on a piece of &#8216;something&#8217; that I can&#8217;t make out what it is. </p>
<p>6th picture, entitled &#8216;Beauty&#8217;. No comment</p>
<p>7th picture, entitled &#8216;Captivating&#8217;. Like the expression of her eyes. </p>
<p>8th picture, entitled &#8216;Dance&#8217;. Like this angle and her pose. </p>
<p>9th picture, entitled &#8216;Cold&#8217;. I don&#8217;t feel the chill looking at this picture.</p>
<p>The rest of the picture&#8230; don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Az</title>
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		<dc:creator>Az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont you have any other models?</description>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loved the pictures. model&#039;s expression in first few pictures made me cry.

was laughing so hard i teared up hahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loved the pictures. model&#8217;s expression in first few pictures made me cry.</p>
<p>was laughing so hard i teared up hahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>she does not have much variety where facial expressions are concerned. And OMG, the last pic. Her lips are PEELING!!! Get some Vaseline girl!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she does not have much variety where facial expressions are concerned. And OMG, the last pic. Her lips are PEELING!!! Get some Vaseline girl!</p>
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