You can call me ShaolinD70s Now! Yippeeeee New Cam!

Been a bit busy, had a really hectic weekend, was sorting loads of things out today, flying to Manila tommorow, if the hotel has net I’ll try and catch up blogging.

Sadly it’s not the Penisular Makati this time, it’s some shithole, maybe it’ll have tincan Internet..

Anyway one of the things I managed to sort out today was this..

I went here to somewhere that sells Nikon cameras.

Gave them this (ALL MY WORDLY SAVINGS OMGGBQBQ~!!!one)

Phat wad of money

And received this.

Nikon D70s Body

(Plus the 18-70mm Lens of course, and a strap and other stuff, will take more pics of the cam with my other cam when time permits)

Got home and took this! (w00t clear pics?~!)


I don’t have a memory card, nor a case/bag etc so I won’t be taking it to Manila, A70 action for now darlings.

Normal blogging will resume soon.




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49 Responses to You can call me ShaolinD70s Now! Yippeeeee New Cam!

  1. wingz June 7, 2006 at 1:48 am #


  2. yothemans June 7, 2006 at 5:02 am #

    Congrats for getting D70s
    btw how much did you get it for?
    i know they are selling at rm2700(body)

  3. KinkyPugKevin June 7, 2006 at 9:03 am #

    I hate you. -_-

  4. KY June 7, 2006 at 9:09 am #

    yothemans: count the 100 ringgit bills noob. 😛

  5. Terry June 7, 2006 at 9:14 am #

    omg, that’s nice ! now we are expecting some real downblouse and some hidden actions eh ?

    cheerio, careful where they send you, and stay off chicken !

  6. in June 7, 2006 at 9:19 am #

    Hopefully you’ll still get to watch the World Cup at the place you’re going! BTW, the England world cup song is OK and all…..but not very anthem-ey, it’s not the sort of song that gets people going. Give me Celcom’s Football Mad Nation anytime!

  7. kamkuey June 7, 2006 at 10:36 am #

    Hey.. congrats on the wise choice. We should be oogling at super sharp super nice pics soon eh?

  8. tigerjoe June 7, 2006 at 11:48 am #

    The vendor didn’t give you a complimentary card and carry case?!?!

    You should complain to MCA’s Michael Chong, inform the Malay Mail and tell Jeff Ooi about it. Unless you bought the thing from the back of a lorry, of course. 😛

    Nice one though. I are jeles.

  9. Hijackqueen June 7, 2006 at 12:27 pm #

    I’ve sold my sony T-7 since you say it’s no good. I’ll see what to get next. Nikon?

  10. Dabido (Teflon) June 7, 2006 at 12:42 pm #

    Way Kewl! That’s a good quality photo. I might have to seriously invest in one of those soon.

  11. cooknengr June 7, 2006 at 12:51 pm #

    You won’t regret! The last picture already shows the depth of field. Btw, don’t need to get a IR remote control from Nikon, a universal TV remote control will do the trick.

  12. Kelvin June 7, 2006 at 1:29 pm #


  13. ShadowFox June 7, 2006 at 2:44 pm #

    You do realize that cameras like these are not made to last more than a few years ? Tops 2 years before it gives you problems from wear and tear or age.

    They’re just not using the same electronic components that we’ll normally use in camcorders, and camcorder electronics tend to last much longer than camera electronics.

    So better make sure you make your best shots within these 2-3 years while the camera is still functioning.

  14. Ethan Hunt June 7, 2006 at 4:15 pm #

    OHMYGAAATTTT !!!!!! It’s a D70s ya’all !!!… we expect some D70s action dude….

  15. Chris Chong June 7, 2006 at 4:26 pm #
      ShadowFox said: You do realize that cameras like these are not made to last more than a few years ? Tops 2 years before it gives you problems from wear and tear or age.

      They’re just not using the same electronic components that we’ll normally use in camcorders, and camcorder electronics tend to last much longer than camera electronics.

      So better make sure you make your best shots within these 2-3 years while the camera is still functioning.

    What on earth are you talking about? It’s the mechanical components like the shutter and reflex mirror that are more likely to fail – and that’s the same as with film cameras.

    Failing within 2-3 years? If you’re unlucky or take more than 1,000 shots each week (or if you happen to use Sony products), then maybe.

    But if your camera does cause trouble, it’s usually nothing that the service centre wouldn’t be able to fix.

    The only problems with my D70 so far is that the shutter button is a little unresponsive at times (need to press it a little harder)and that my SB-600 sometimes only fires a pre-flash in TTL mode.

    Anyhoo… welcome to the club, ST.

  16. ShadowFox June 7, 2006 at 5:04 pm #

    Your CCD/CMOS is an electronic component and unlike the film SLRS where the film itself is the exposed area in the camera, the CCD/CMOS needs to be charged up with power to capture the images from the lenses and also to receive light sources.

    These things have lifespans, and they will fail.
    Dusts getting into the CCD/CMOS will kill your shots also. Unlike film SLRs all you do is take out the film and changed to another one.

    They’re not like camcorder CCDs which are made to withstand abuses of constantly charged power to be able to take long 50 fields per second and operate on long hours.

    Of course, besides these electronic lifespan issues, it’s correct that you mention mechanical parts as well.

    Except that with the DSLRs, you better pray the CCD/CMOS replacements are not exhorbitant when their time comes, they will cost much much more to replace than your mechanical parts.

    “For most new digital SLR’s the replacement cost of a CCD/CMOS sensor in parts alone is nearly the original cost of the camera.”

    Just 1 dead pixel in the CCD/CMOS sensor is enough to get the whole thing replaced. Don’t forget the LCD panels as well.

  17. Adam June 7, 2006 at 6:07 pm #


    Can see that it literally costs a bundle 😉

  18. ShadowFox June 7, 2006 at 8:57 pm #

    Vat da hell, D70 is no more than 5k.

    Definitely not built as sturdy as the pro versions.

  19. luzzio June 8, 2006 at 1:51 am #

    omg bbq!

    ST you make me hate you…I want that frigging camera T_T

    how much did it cost btw? 3k plus?

  20. FireAngel June 8, 2006 at 9:15 am #

    WAHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh. SO SEXY!

  21. Peter June 8, 2006 at 12:01 pm #

    I envy you.

  22. Chris Chong June 8, 2006 at 1:21 pm #


    Point taken… 🙂

    But surely the design of the CCD/CMOS sensor has something to do with its longevity. I’m very well aware that my D70 will one day need a replacement sensor, but I doubt it’ll be within the next couple of years.

    I still see people shooting with their old Nikon D100 bodies, which has a very similar CCD sensor to the one found in the D70, which means that they’ve been in service for at least 2.5years (unless they opted for a D100 after the D70 came out).

    For that matter, there are still loads of people using EOS 10D and EOS D60 bodies in my company. These are even older cameras and they still seem to work fine, in spite of heavy usage.

    But on a lighter note, if you actually shoot enough pictures to ruin your camera’s CCD/CMOS sensor, you’d probably have saved more money than yor would’ve spent on film.

  23. ShadowFox June 8, 2006 at 1:55 pm #

    Good luck. EOS D10 and D60 should last longer due to their nature of being built sturdy. They’re also priced in the professional range if you haven’t already checked.

    The D70 is priced at consumer level, so do not expect it to have equal lifespan of the units you mentioned.

    You get what you pay for.

  24. ShadowFox June 8, 2006 at 2:00 pm #

    Sorry, I mean prosumer level for the 10d and 60d. I think the professional versions costs a notch up higher. 😀

    So obviously, what you guys bought are still consumer level DSLRs.

  25. Skyler June 8, 2006 at 4:36 pm #

    Oh how the wad of money makes me drooooooooool..

  26. Chris Chong June 8, 2006 at 5:14 pm #


    The only reason the EOS10D and D60 cost more is because they’re much older cameras than the D70, and prices for all DSLRs were much higher back then.

    By your reasoning, a Nikon D100’s CCD sensor will outlast the one on the D70 – even though they’re mostly identical – simply because the D100 costs more and was considered a semi-professional DSLR when it was launched.

    i.e. You’re not making any sense.

    The D70 has a superior feature set to the EOS 10D and even the Nikon D100, if you’re wondering.

    You haven’t actually used a D70 or EOS 10D before, have you? Nuff said… Have a nice day. 🙂

  27. ShadowFox June 8, 2006 at 7:48 pm #

    Well, if you insist that your stuff will last. I know how it feels to have spent what you consider wads of cash on electronic stuff and thinking you’re getting your money’s worth.

    I’ve not used much DSLRs because I am more of a video guy, preferring to play with PD-170, PD-250, AG-DVX100 camcorders costing over 12,000 ringgits per unit. (PD-250 goes up to 24k) 😉

    I’ve only tried the EOS D60 for a while and didn’t have much experience with it, but common sense about manufacturing will tell you how long these products will last. Where they’re manufactured can decide how long your stuff will last.

    Remember, harddisks used to be made to last a very long time, long ago when manufacturing was localized and not outsourced from their respective brand owners.

    Nowadays, many things are being outsourced to China.

    Nokia Li-On batteries nowadays do not last (in terms of rechargability) compared to the ones that came from europe last time. (Nowadays they’re all made-in-china)

    Even the Japanese are outsourcing some electronics and manufacturing to China as well.

    Oh btw, I am very sure your Nikon D70 stuff are made-in-china. My friend who was considering this Nikon D70s unit, completely nuked the idea and cancelled Nikon for good from consideration ever, simply because they’re now mostly made-in-china. He’s going for the EOS 30D instead and he made sure it’s not made-in-china. (Too bad for him if it really turns out to be made-in-china as well)

    Do let us know how long those made-in-china stuff lasts. 😉

    Even if it’s branded stuff, as long as it is made-in-china (even with minimum level QC pass) the product will never last as long as older series that were never made-in-china.

    It makes no business sense for brand owners to make their stuff lasts so long. (Come on, even hd manufacturers cut down their warranty from 3 to 1 year)

    I know it’s hard for some people to accept what’s known as the truth because they spent their hard-earned wads of cash on these toys and refuse to believe these things will turn up problematic sooner than later.

    That’s ok. Understandable. I couldn’t believe it either. Been there, experienced that. It’s too religious to argue these things.

    Let common sense prevail. 😉 I am done here. Enjoy your china made cameras.

  28. Intensecure June 8, 2006 at 11:14 pm #

    Celaka! Orang putih kaya! 😉 Nice, very nice, enjoy!!

  29. ShadowFox June 9, 2006 at 1:19 am #

    Nikon D70 owners. You guys are welcomed to check out this thread on how many people are having problems with it before it’s time is up. 😉

  30. kenJJ June 9, 2006 at 2:41 am #

    OMG…now you’re making me jealous! Ever since I started surfing photoblogs recently, then I realized how great’s the potential of a D-SLR camera. Arghhh! I guess you should set up a photoblog, eh?

  31. terenceloh June 9, 2006 at 9:18 am #

    Congrats on your purchase! To those 2 arguing, humans have lifespan too. Get a life and stop wasting time debating.

    ST, can’t wait to see the photos taken by the new cam.

  32. Chris Chong June 9, 2006 at 11:06 am #


    Fair enough… you’re entitled to your own opinion. Besides, nothing I say is going to change your mind anyway so…

    Peace! ^_^

  33. Terry June 9, 2006 at 11:38 am #

    is terenceloh related to terencegoh ? omg !!!!

  34. Dakota June 9, 2006 at 2:18 pm #

    DAKOTA ^_^

  35. Erna June 9, 2006 at 7:22 pm #

    I suspect that Shadowfox is secretly an agent of the camcorder consortium. But seriously, nothing lasts forever. Not everyone can afford really high-end DSLRs and most people don’t need them.

    Happy phototaking dude, enjoy the camera. I’ve seen DSLRs last up to five years and by then, you’ll probably be itching to upgrade. 😉

  36. ShadowFox June 9, 2006 at 8:03 pm #

    “I’ve seen DSLRs last up to five years and by then, you’ll probably be itching to upgrade. ;)”

    Because they were Made-in-Japan last time.

    I don’t know about you. If I am going to be paying that much for a DSLR camera, I’ll make sure it’s not made-in-China, regardless of the excuse they give about proper qc standards.

    Go buy a made-in-Malaysia/China TV and a made-in-Japan TV of a particular well-known brand and you’ll know the difference. Results speak for themselves regardless of what ISO bla bla bla certification crap they tell you.

    If people don’t have the passion for it, it will certainly show in their work, even manufacturing.

    Until the day we share the same Kaizen spirit as the Japanese, don’t hope to ever compete with them on equal footing.

  37. Anti-Shadow Fox June 9, 2006 at 8:20 pm #

    What is wrong with you? Just because you’re right you don’t have to say it all out… but due to the fact that you’re not exactly right, you should, well, shut up. No?

    Shut the – up then.

  38. Chris Chong June 9, 2006 at 9:36 pm #

    Goal post… shifting…

    Attention… diverted… *urk!*

  39. Chris Chong June 9, 2006 at 9:52 pm #
      Terry says:

      omg, that’s nice ! now we are expecting some real downblouse and some hidden actions eh ?

      cheerio, careful where they send you, and stay off chicken !

    Actually, it’s harder to do that with a DSLR – no live view on LCD… For that, you need an Olympus E-330… -_-

  40. ShadowFox June 9, 2006 at 9:56 pm #

    Aw shucks… I would be angry too if someone tells me right in my face my made-in-china stuff (which I sank gobs of cash into) have defects.

  41. easyrider lovescsandbf2 June 9, 2006 at 10:41 pm #

    Hi shaolintiger,

    Congrats on getting your first DSLR!!! May I know how much you bought it for???


  42. Rob June 10, 2006 at 1:13 pm #

    Wow that’s alot of cash. Could buy just about anything 🙂

  43. ShaolinTiger June 12, 2006 at 1:39 pm #

    Holy shit that’s a lot of comments. Ok let’s me begin..

    yothemans: Best price I can find is RM3560 with lens kit (18-70mm) The cheapest was RM3100 but that was with the inferior 18-55mm (the D50 kit lens).

    KinkyPugKevin: Don’t hate me love me, I’ll take pics of you 😉

    in: Got back just in time for the first game, was a bit late because plane was delayed 3 hours…missed the opening ceremony.

    kamkuey: I sure as hell hope so.

    tigerjoe: Nah I didn’t buy from that kind of shop (Photochem, Photo Shangri-la etc). Plus you pay a premium for flash cards in photo shops, better off grabbing one from a computer shop…

    cooknengr: Hmm interesting tip, the remote isnt very expensive tho and is so tiny

    Kelvin: Thanks man, hope to be taking pics like you soon 🙂

    ShadowFox: If I can’t afford to buy a new one in 2-3 years then I got bigger things to worry about than the camera 😉 I’d be looking to upgrade to a D200 or similar by then anyway I guess, I’m buying according to my knowledge, which is close to 0 now so this camera suites. BTW you both just had a pointless argument, the camera body is made in Thailand the lens in Japan, none of it is made in China. Also the thread you posted as reference, I could find a similar thread about any camera model, any car, and TV, there are always defects. The lifespan is about 50,000 shots, which is a lot! (I’ve only made about 7000 with my A70 in 2+ years).

    Chris: I agree with what your saying.

    luzzio: Don’t hate me, come play with me 😀 Join the club!

    kenJJ: Yah I’m planning to do that.

    Dakota: Welcome, come back soon 🙂

    Rob: Heh it’s not that much, couldn’t buy me a new car or a Nikon D200 LOL

  44. Matthew June 12, 2006 at 5:59 pm #

    get Konica Minolta…Sony has it

  45. nyx June 14, 2006 at 7:21 am #

    a d70s!!! sweeeeet 🙂 it’s worth the cash you coughed up, hehe. mine gave me so much joy, and i too choked up my savings.

  46. easyrider lovescsandbf2 June 14, 2006 at 9:20 pm #

    Any difference between the D50 and D70?

    How about Olympus E330 or Pentax *istDL?

  47. ShaolinTiger June 15, 2006 at 1:56 am #

    easyrider: You can find out the difference here. Includes 350D aswell. Image samples here. Some real life comparison here.

    D50 is a fine cam too, but not the lens 18-55mm is quite poor, if you can get D50 body with the D70 kit lens is a good starter (18-70mm lens).