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	<title>Comments on: Deadman Walking &#8211; Citibank Indonesia</title>
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		<title>By: julianME</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2006/04/13/deadman-walking-citibank-indonesia/#comment-10265</link>
		<dc:creator>julianME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh wtf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh wtf?</p>
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		<title>By: damion</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2006/04/13/deadman-walking-citibank-indonesia/#comment-10258</link>
		<dc:creator>damion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mybabybay,
actually the income tax department really does follow Citibank here...
they&#039;ve been taxing my late grandfather who passed away 12yrs ago for 8yrs...
until i confronted them when they came to my house...

conversation that happened:

income tax: i&#039;m looking for Mr XXX
me: you are?

income tax: i&#039;m officer XXX from the income tax department, i came because he hasn&#039;t been paying his income tax for 8yrs... is he around?
me: oh, he&#039;s around.. the photo that is.. is your fax number XX-XXXXXXXX?

income tax: yes, that&#039;s our number.. may i see him then?
me: you can choose to see his photo here in my house or go to this cemetery at XXXXXX, we faxed you his death certificate 8yrs ago but you continued to tax a death man... can i bring u to our lawyer for harassment?

income tax agent stood there for more than 5 minutes dumbed, excused himself and left...
i was preparing to choke him tho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mybabybay,<br />
actually the income tax department really does follow Citibank here&#8230;<br />
they&#8217;ve been taxing my late grandfather who passed away 12yrs ago for 8yrs&#8230;<br />
until i confronted them when they came to my house&#8230;</p>
<p>conversation that happened:</p>
<p>income tax: i&#8217;m looking for Mr XXX<br />
me: you are?</p>
<p>income tax: i&#8217;m officer XXX from the income tax department, i came because he hasn&#8217;t been paying his income tax for 8yrs&#8230; is he around?<br />
me: oh, he&#8217;s around.. the photo that is.. is your fax number XX-XXXXXXXX?</p>
<p>income tax: yes, that&#8217;s our number.. may i see him then?<br />
me: you can choose to see his photo here in my house or go to this cemetery at XXXXXX, we faxed you his death certificate 8yrs ago but you continued to tax a death man&#8230; can i bring u to our lawyer for harassment?</p>
<p>income tax agent stood there for more than 5 minutes dumbed, excused himself and left&#8230;<br />
i was preparing to choke him tho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mybabybay</title>
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		<dc:creator>mybabybay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrmm..I wonder will the tax dept also follow Citibank here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrmm..I wonder will the tax dept also follow Citibank here.</p>
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		<title>By: Applegal</title>
		<link>http://www.shaolintiger.com/2006/04/13/deadman-walking-citibank-indonesia/#comment-10178</link>
		<dc:creator>Applegal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citibank: The City never sleeps. The citizens are assumed to live forever I guess. 

I thought a customer&#039;s death would result in the account being closed upon proof being a death certificate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citibank: The City never sleeps. The citizens are assumed to live forever I guess. </p>
<p>I thought a customer&#8217;s death would result in the account being closed upon proof being a death certificate?</p>
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		<title>By: Dabido (Teflon)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dabido (Teflon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mooiness - not sure what planet you&#039;re from, but there are legal ways things work.  First, when someone dies, all their debts and assets are sorted out as part of their estate.

That means that they balance out what&#039;s owed by what&#039;s owned.

In the case of the credit card, unless there is some &#039;mandatory time&#039; that they will be charged fees [like they have to have the card for 24 months and will be charged over that 24 month period], then Citibank CANNOT charge her fees after she&#039;s died.

A death certificate as proof should be enough for them to remove the charges to her account.  [In fact, their debt collection department should have found out she was dead and the charges would have been removed].

You can&#039;t charge dead people for using a service unless they have a contract for a time period (as I stated above).  This isn&#039;t a DEBT the person had, this is a DEBT incurred AFTER DEATH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mooiness &#8211; not sure what planet you&#8217;re from, but there are legal ways things work.  First, when someone dies, all their debts and assets are sorted out as part of their estate.</p>
<p>That means that they balance out what&#8217;s owed by what&#8217;s owned.</p>
<p>In the case of the credit card, unless there is some &#8216;mandatory time&#8217; that they will be charged fees [like they have to have the card for 24 months and will be charged over that 24 month period], then Citibank CANNOT charge her fees after she&#8217;s died.</p>
<p>A death certificate as proof should be enough for them to remove the charges to her account.  [In fact, their debt collection department should have found out she was dead and the charges would have been removed].</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t charge dead people for using a service unless they have a contract for a time period (as I stated above).  This isn&#8217;t a DEBT the person had, this is a DEBT incurred AFTER DEATH.</p>
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		<title>By: eksk</title>
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		<dc:creator>eksk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes your right mooiness.. the dead should never die unless they have cleared their debts.. if they dont clear their debt they they can never die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes your right mooiness.. the dead should never die unless they have cleared their debts.. if they dont clear their debt they they can never die!</p>
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		<title>By: mooiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>mooiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story may be an urban legend, but I am on the bank&#039;s side in this case. Just because a person has died, it does not mean the debts would just dissapear and go with him/her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story may be an urban legend, but I am on the bank&#8217;s side in this case. Just because a person has died, it does not mean the debts would just dissapear and go with him/her.</p>
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