I don’t get why we pay for Tolls?

Most the tolls still around have already paid for the roads they are on, like LDP toll was supposed to be decomissioned 2 years ago.

And why do we pay road tax, and THEN TOLLS?

For shitty roads with holes in and bridges that fall down.

Surely with the 4.4billion they are saving from reducing the petrol subsidy they could remove tolls?




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31 Responses to I don’t get why we pay for Tolls?

  1. YY March 13, 2006 at 12:11 pm #

    no particular reason, just because this is Malaysia. You don’t have to know why you have to pay. You just need to know you MUST pay. Malaysia Boleh..!!

  2. KY March 13, 2006 at 12:28 pm #

    or extend the LRT line, that wouldn’t cost 4.4 billion either.

  3. IB March 13, 2006 at 1:04 pm #

    KY – don’t bet on it lor. Anything is possible!

  4. susie_q March 13, 2006 at 1:46 pm #

    welcome to the wonderful land known as Malaysia Boleh……

  5. Jayboy8 March 13, 2006 at 1:50 pm #

    More than likely it will be used to bailout those underperforming GLCs 🙂

    The PM can say anything he wants…. end of the day it will always be not the case.

  6. Lowzeewee March 13, 2006 at 1:52 pm #

    Also notice that the toll prices have been slowly but steadily increasing over the years… Inflation? =P

  7. spiller March 13, 2006 at 2:41 pm #

    because your office is not in Putrajaya dude.

  8. kimberlycun March 13, 2006 at 3:18 pm #


  9. skyflakes March 13, 2006 at 3:53 pm #

    don’t blame the governments for it!
    half the tolls are privately owned!!

  10. Wan Zafran March 13, 2006 at 4:31 pm #

    Actually, anything can amount to 4.4 billion. For example, RM 2 billion may be the actual cost of some service. But then, add the “thank you” fee for the politician who passed such a project to the project owner – that’s 1.5 million down – , and minus another 0.5 billion, that’s already a cool 4 billion. The 0.4 billion will be “subsidized” accordingly to many pockets.

    I am very cynical when it comes to the Malaysian goverment’s lack of transparency.

  11. Uncle Ed March 13, 2006 at 4:49 pm #

    Eh, why ALL PPL ABOVE hentam our own Government ?? This is pathetic LOL!

  12. ShaolinTiger March 13, 2006 at 5:08 pm #

    YY: Boleh indeed.

    spiller: It was in Cyberjaya last time..near enough, toll was even worse then, $10 a day.

    skyflakes: Surely the government endorses it?

    Wan Zafran: I agree…look at the MRR2, and this whole 3G fiasco, everyone is too busy lining each others pockets to actually tackle the real issues. There is no transparency.

    Uncle Ed: Why? Are you buying the government propoganda? You support paying tolls for crappy road and reduced subsidy for appaling public transport?

  13. Uncle Ed March 13, 2006 at 5:42 pm #

    No, Im not supporting the Jabatan Propaganda Dalam Negeri. I find it pathetic that there are so much dissatisfaction/hatred for the government which is unhealthy, and if left unattended to, will certainly lead to “instability”.

  14. gbyeow March 13, 2006 at 5:45 pm #

    And does the fact that the concessions for the toll collection have already expired even matter in the first place? Guess not. The tolls on Jalan Mahameru and Cheras continued to receive extensions and continued collecting long after it had covered the building costs and made a hefty profit besides. The best joke is that some of these tolls are collecting RM1+ for a stretch of tarmac that’s shorter than SM’s dick.

  15. spiller March 13, 2006 at 6:10 pm #

    Uncle Ed: People do not create these “dissatisfaction/hatred” out of nothing. Besides, it is the people’s right to “attend” the “instability”.

  16. Dabido (Teflon) March 13, 2006 at 7:01 pm #

    If you don’t pay for the tolls, then they have to make up the revenue with another way to rip people off … and that costs mroe money to set up.

    But yeah, I agree. They do that in Australia, which is why they have a toll on the Sydney Harbour Bridge which was builtin 1930 something and paid off completely 20 years ago … but then they left the toll on … then to justify the toll they built a tunnel under the harbour which nobody uses (and they even halved the toll on the tunnel to try to get people to use it).

    It’s just so politicians can fill the coffers and make it look like they are good money managers, when in reality they’re just a bunch of tax collectors who still have rampant financial heamoraging, but they’ve got the money coming in so fast, nobody bothers to fix the big holes where it’s going out!

  17. Uncle Ed March 13, 2006 at 7:11 pm #

    spiller :

    yes, it is frustrating to know tax-payers’ money not being spent wisely or properly, but the point I’m stressing is that growing dissatisfaction/hatred sentiments shall not be left unchecked, as the rakyat will not benefit from a politically unstable nation.

    protest we will, but in peace, going through the proper channel/process, with VALID reasons supported by facts/evidence, not accusations.

    i’m no pro-govt, at the same time I also do no wish to see a misguided society.


  18. kimberlycun March 13, 2006 at 7:21 pm #

    uncle ed: if complaining on a blog is pathetic as you said, i’d love to know what exactly are the proper channels/process and how invalid are these people’s grouses.

  19. "Murray Head" March 13, 2006 at 7:24 pm #

    Yeah, tolls are so time and petrol consuming. They also cause massive traffic jams at the toll plazas. But fortunately Malaysia’s traffic jams aren’t as bad as the Bangkok gridlocks. I heard that they take potties with them into the cars so they can go to the toilet while stuck in the jams. When I was in Bangkok from 1994-95, I saw this to be true, the traffic jams that is. Don’t know about the potties. Never could walk faster than a car, but in Bangkok, no problems.

  20. Adam March 13, 2006 at 7:27 pm #

    You can tell me about that. Going back and forth between KL and Kedah make me poorer by a few hundred dollars everytime that I have decided to travel by bus.

  21. Uncle Ed March 13, 2006 at 7:38 pm #


    im not saying complaining on a blog is pathetic, but the negative vibes that seems to be plaguing the nation is.

    promoting dialogues with the relevant ministries can be one of the channel/process.

    the cracks/inferior quality roads and appaling public transport system not to mention sucky Proton cars are valid grouses of course, but we must beware the hidden agenda of certain parties playing up the issues, and not to be turned into pawns.

  22. kimberlycun March 13, 2006 at 9:12 pm #

    uncle ed: i absolutely agree with you. everyone knows people ought to talk to the relevant ministries. i do too. and im sure a lot have attempted to do so, and fail.

    easy for the gov to say that the opposition is playing the issue up, why don’t they stop crying foul about opposition and rebut one by one the issue that opposition has brought up pertaining to fuel hike. they haven’t done that, have they?

  23. vincent March 13, 2006 at 10:16 pm #

    I asked my father that question when I was 10. His answer was simple:

    “If you were operating that toll booth and people keep paying you, will you stop collecting money just for the heck of it?”

  24. Chris Chong March 13, 2006 at 11:21 pm #

    For that matter, why on earth are we paying RM5 to watch pirated DVDs?

    If you’re gonna screw the industry, why not get rid of the middle man and use Bittorrent instead?

    I mean, it’s actually better for the government (or Telekom Malaysia – same thing, really…). That would give them some sort of incentive to expand broadband services around the country – milk us of our cash and all. And maybe, who knows, they may actually improve the services to meet the demand.

    Oops, got a little carried away – I forgot we’re in Malaysia… T_T

    Anyway, support Bittorrent, ok? Remember, every time you buy a pirated DVD, God kills a kitten.

    As for tolls, I suppose we could car pool? Erm, no. Sorry

  25. way March 14, 2006 at 1:50 am #

    because stupid malaysians vote the stupid government…

  26. Boss Stewie March 14, 2006 at 6:57 am #

    the worst and saddest part is that.. there is inflation.. but the average wage of the man on the street isn’t much more than it was 10 years ago…

  27. yothemans.com March 14, 2006 at 7:38 am #

    Uncle Ed ,
    try and talk to our beloved Work Minster Samy Vellu,
    I bet he’ll reply IAM TOO BUSY!

  28. Uncle Ed March 14, 2006 at 11:52 am #

    kim :

    The Star, March 12, Govt has denied RM4.4 billion will be used to save MAS or any other GLCs. Let’s wait & see 😉


    That fella has even made his mobile number public and you can call him anytime 😀

  29. drama queen March 14, 2006 at 10:58 pm #

    Yeah, try living in a place where there isn’t even any decent public transport, and you have to drive a long way just cos you dont have a choice in the matter and pay lots of toll to top that off…;)

    Malaysia Boleh!

  30. ignatio103 April 7, 2006 at 10:29 am #

    really sucks….have been pondering the above issues…pay tolls, roadtax n high cartax, interest…..Me still driving proton junk of
    >15 yrs. why why why American n Oz cars r cheaper
    by the dozens……Even da proton sawi cost more
    than my per annum paycheck…Something is very
    wrong in administration…….or naik beca.

  31. Ching June 5, 2008 at 5:04 pm #

    To keep the roads congestion-free and retard-proof : )